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Pastor Bob is retiring on June 30, 2011

We want the transition to our next pastor (code named “Fred”) as seamless as possible.  We have formed a transition / communication team. We want all members to be as informed and involved with the effort as possible. Therefore we have dedicated this page on the website that will serve as one of the places for communication and input gathering. This information will also be available at the church office for those who are not able to make it here.

Transition Communication Team

Gregg Tefft
Mike Jackson
Barbara Puller
Jeff May
Mark Luhnow

We want the transition to our next pastor (code named “Fred”) as seamless as possible.  We have formed a transition / communication team. We want all members to be as informed and involved with the effort as possible. Therefore we have dedicated this page on the website that will serve as one of the places for communication and input gathering. This information will also be available at the church office for those who are not able to make it here.

Transition Communication Team

Gregg Tefft
Mike Jackson
Barbara Puller
Jeff May
Mark Luhnow

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Written by: Transition Team
2/4/2009 7:08 PM 

 

ADVANCE MEETING
January 31, 2009
 
Purpose: To ask questions and make comment on the hiring of a new senior pastor to take Bob’s place in two and a half years.
 
Outcome: The set-up of a Transition/ Communication Team comprised of Mike Jackson, Greg Tefft (Elder representative), Jeff May, Mark Luhnow, Barbara Puller, and a young adult representative (to be recommended by Jeff May)
 
The comments presented can be generally organized under six points:
                   1. Who are we (HLEFC)?
                   2. How do we communicate with the rest of the Body (HLEFC)?
                   3. Attributes of our new pastor
                   4. Explore transition models
                   5. Develop a timeline/process for all transition steps
                   6. Answer questions/concerns of the Body
 
The following is a compilation of comments made during the Advance meeting as related to each of the six points:
1. Who are we?
·        How can we define who HLEFC is? 
·        Who are we? And who do we want to be? 
·        We need to be able to retain our diversity. 
·        As we define who we are, it will define naturally who our new pastor will be. 
·        Who does God want HLEFC to be (going on to the next level)? 
·        We must pray for the new pastor to lead us into God’s plan for HLEFC. 
·        The Elders/Search Committee could put comments into a “Prospectus” for pastoral candidates to read in order to inform them of who we are.
·        We want to be known as a “servant church”, a church of small groups, and for having certain Friends (and otherwise) distinctives.
 
2. How do we communicate with the Body (HLEFC)?
·        There needs to be a smaller group to meet regularly in order to collect and disseminate information.
·        Communication can be through various formats:
 
§        a filter-down through committee heads and small group leaders;
§        on-line (web) communication;
§        congregational meetings;
§        special congregational meetings to discuss “change” and lay groundwork;
§        open forum just preceding elders’ meetings;
§        short informational sharing during Sunday morning services;
§        bulletin insert;
§        teaching about “change” from the pulpit;
§        a designated “Transition Update” page in each issue of the newsletter
 
·        Do we bring everyone in on every decision (no) or set up “subsets” to make decisions?
·        Whatever methodology is used, the groups involved in decision-making and communicating with the larger Body need to be transparent.
·        The questions from the Advance Questionnaire could be reworded for the congregation-at-large to answer.
·        How will the Transition/Communication Team summarize comments from the congregation, and how will they be communicated and to whom?
·        If anything, over communicate.
 
3. Attributes of our new pastor
·        Summary of the questionnaire (30 surveys):
§        level of education not a factor
§        5-10 years of ministry experience on a church staff
§        number of churches having served not a factor, or possibly one
§        most recent experience having been a pastor or senior pastor of a multiple staff
§        primary giftedness in preaching, discipling and counseling
§        a mixture of Bible-based messages are most inspirational
§        will involve himself with other evangelical pastors in the area
§        will be married with family experience (but not necessarily still having children at home)
§        will have an evangelical background
§        having served or attended Evangelical Friends not a factor
§        imperative that he view the Bible as God’s Word and the ultimate authority for our lives
§        geographical background not a factor
§        aged between 32 and 55 years
·        A new pastor could be quite different once he is in charge.
·        The new pastor should have a personality that can work well with others.
·        We need a solid-based pastor who is open to and led by the Holy Spirit.
·        Bob’s leadership style would allow new staff to thrive: he gives time and “elbow room” in order to work and carry out ideas.
·        We need to wait for the right pastor.
·        The new pastor should be a servant/leader and someone who can “sell” his vision to the staff (Bob could help him with this).
·        The congregation’s answers to a re-worded questionnaire could be validated (or not) by a pastor’s resume.
·        He should at least respect the distinctions of Friends.
·        A resume could include a candidate’s own assessment of his strengths and weaknesses.
·        Is it enough to just say “evangelical”, or is there need to be more specific?
·        We must be realistic – the new pastor will not be another Bob; he will be his own person.
 
4. Explore transition models
·        A. “Cold Start” – a new pastor begins all his responsibilities when Bob retires June 30, 2011.
·        B. “Overlapping” – a new pastor works alongside Bob for several months before Bob retires.
·        C. “Interim” – a transition pastor fills in for a period of time before a new full-time pastor begins.
·        D. ?
·        If an overlap is desired, the funding should be set aside.
·        Pastor Bob would like to have a 6-month overlap
·        Consideration needs to be given to time needed to give notice to a previous congregation if a new pastor comes on an “overlap” basis.
·        A long-tenured pastor historically is followed by a short-termed pastor.
·        An overlap period of time allows a new pastor to build relationships.
·        An interim plan might work best if the next pastor would be short-termed.
·        If an interim plan is decided upon, a person could be chosen quickly. However, Bob would really like to be in an overlap situation.
·        Can a congregation handle two “husbands” at once? (This dilemma would put the interim plan in a favorable light.)
 
5. Develop a timeline/process for all transition steps
·        Minimize the amount of change at a time.
·        Is there help (to select) available from NWYM?
·        Is there financial support for someone to come on staff early in order to transition in?
·        There are change consultants, or coaches, available.
·        What is the process for hiring a new pastor?
·        When is it appropriate to begin including the larger congregation in the decision-making process?
·        When will the Search Committee begin to have answers?
·        Names of potential candidates can be obtained through NWYM office, from the web, from other yearly meeting offices, or through personal contacts.
·        Is it appropriate for a potential candidate to come and preach as a part of the interview process?
·        Bob could write his own job description but don’t get bogged down with details.
·        A formula for searching for and choosing a new pastor: criteria + faith.
·        A Search Committee would be members of HLEFC and would include non-elders.
·        The Elders are responsible for calling and recommending a candidate.
 
6. Answer questions/concerns of the Body
·        Some people will choose denial.
·        There is need for good communication and full involvement of the whole church (HLEFC).
·        There would be opportunity for comment/questions at an open forum format just prior to Elders’ meetings.
·        Invite written comments.
                                   

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Re: Advance 2009 on January 31, 2009 meeting minutes

I'm sorry I wasn't able to make it to the Advance meeting, but I do have some comments and questions. First being, I'm a little confused as to the transition team. Is this also the search committee team? Who chose or how did this team become "the team?" As I look at our congregation I see more than half of them being women. I think we should have at least a couple more women on the search committee. Women see things from a different perspective and may give a more balanced view in combination with the men on the team.
1. Who are we?
I agree that we need to define who we are in light of who we claim to be, Hayden Lake Evangelical Friends Church. If it is decided that we are not truly a Friends church then it won't matter whether or not we have a Friends pastor. If we decide that Hayden Lake Friends is in fact not really a Friends church and it is not important to the congregation, then we need to have the integrity to take the steps to end our affiliation with Northwest Yearly Meeting. That introduces another significant issue.
2. How do we communicate with the body?
I agree that over communication is better than not enough, but I also think that everyone should know all decisions being made. The reality is that most people are not going to be interested or concerned, but those who are should have the opportunity to be a part of that discernment. Perhaps, given the fact that this is a unique change for us, we should have a monthly congregational meeting at least for the year prior to Bob's retirement in order for people to hear in person what's going on and be able to voice their concerns, insights, comments, etc. I love the idea of this blog format and the other communication ideas but many people, especially many seniors who don't "do computers" will be left out of the loop. There is nothing like face to face conversation with those people you love.
3.Attributes of our new pastor
I believe our new pastor should be willing to work together and be involved with any Christian pastor or church in our area, not only "evangelical" pastors. It would be elitist to exclude anyone just because they don't claim to be evangelical.
It is important to me that our new pastor have an evangelical Friends background, again, we do claim to be a Friends church. The pastor of our church should more than "respect the distinctions of Friends" He should know, understand and be in agreement with Evangelical Friends. I respect the distinctions of many different denominations but I don't necessarily agree with them and wouldn't pretend to be able to lead them according to their beliefs or core values.
The new pastor should not have to "sell" his vision to anyone. To be sure, he should be listening intently to God for vision, but I think he should be gifted in leading God's people to discern and discover what God's vision is for HLFC, not trying to sell his own vision to them.
I think we need to define what we mean by evangelical. I thought I knew what that meant, but have discovered that evangelical means something different to many other people in the world.
4. Transition models
I believe the best model would be to have an interim pastor. He would be able to wean us from the way things were and help us to move forward to the future. People will have longer to understand and grasp the change. I'm afraid if we move from Bob directly to another pastor (overlap or not) the next pastor wouldn't last long. I don't understand what the benefit of an overlap pastor would be. We have plenty of staff and others who can help with that transition. I think the new pastor would have a very difficult time if Bob were still there. He would not be able to completely be himself. Also, people in the congregation might struggle with loyalty to Bob and bonding to or developing a relationship with the new pastor. We have friends who went to pastor a church where the previous pastor stayed for several months and it was very difficult for both him and his wife. I don't understand what an overlap period has to do with building relationships. For the most part we have a very friendly church and people will reach out to the new pastor and his family. Also, I'm sorry, but if a person doesn't know how to build relationships he has no business being a pastor.
I don't understand the statement, " An interim plan might work best if the next pastor would be short termed." I have sometimes wondered, if we had had an interim youth pastor after Garth how that situation might have looked different. Would we have had different expectations? Would we have made different choices? Would we have known better who we were and what we needed?
5.Develop a timeline/process for all transition steps
There is help from NWYM available. Contact the Yearly Meeting office to find out who would be best to talk to.
It is important to include the larger congregation in the decision-making now. Those among us who care, can have important and vital input that will be missed if we wait till its down to a couple of candidates. Again, all the avenues of communication that are being set up will be great for getting info out.The potential candidate/s should definately come and preach probably more than once.
I respectfully submit these comments and await your thoughtful responses.
Vicky Woods

By Vicky Woods on   2/21/2009 2:28 PM

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